Film Theory: The Joker Is Not Real (Joker 2019 Spoiler Free)

  • Published: 08 September 2019
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    This year we are getting a seemingly brand new take on the classic Batman villain, the Joker. This version stars Joaquin Phoenix as a failed comedian named Arthur Fleck - a new name for the old character. People are saying it's a whole new origin story for the Joker and I think that's true... but maybe not in the way most people are thinking. I think this Joker is not actually REAL! What do I mean? You're about to find out!

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    Writer: Matthew Patrick and Zach Stewart
    Editors: Dan "Cybert" Seibert, BanditRants, and Alex "Sedge" Sedgwick
    Assistant Editor: AlyssaBeCrazy
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  • Trent Solie
    Trent Solie  6 minutes back

    Maybe it's one of Joker 'Multiple Choice" orgin tales brought upon by a recent viewing of "The King of Comedy".

    • Justin Garcia
      Justin Garcia  9 minutes back

      Hater matt... don’t be that guy

      • Legofreak
        Legofreak  17 minutes back

        if young bruce is in this... could this also be a batman origin story?

        • Majin Bjebus
          Majin Bjebus  30 minutes back

          Poor joker he lives in a society but matpat said he will rise up.

          • S D
            S D  32 minutes back

            Dinero is in the trailer for Steph curry sake. You've either seen the movie, or you've picked up on Hollywoods game never making a new movie.

            • Lil Bi Bean
              Lil Bi Bean  36 minutes back

              I know he probably won't see this, but on game theory could you please make a theory on The Last Of Us? Or do a let's play, its a really good zombie type infection game. I'm sorry if you already have, if you did i don't know about it. I would really appreciate it!

              • awsomespecs
                awsomespecs  39 minutes back

                if your right then im sad real sad

                • Chenro Tha Dragon
                  Chenro Tha Dragon  41 minutes back

                  If he’s right imma be upset...

                  • abbsnn cose
                    abbsnn cose  51 minutes back

                    I dont see how making a kid laugh is inappropriate

                    • Zaida Hernandez
                      Zaida Hernandez  1 hours back


                      • AngelKayla 2021
                        AngelKayla 2021  1 hours back

                        This is what they said about it with dc and joker and stuff..
                        "it is intended to launch DC Black, a series of DC-based standalone films. The film, which acts as an origin story  for the Joker, is set in 1981 and follows Arthur Fleck, a failed stand-up comedian who turns to a life of crime and chaos in Gotham City. "
                        You go be right but with this and the birds of pray movie. They said they are standalone films but still in a way related to DC.. (or what ever DC blavk is..) to be honest because we know there are multi universe for DC comics and Marvel. (in this case DC for now) it would not surprise me that there is a joker like Arthur Fleck that has yet to be written....form the comicts and the animation we are all so use to the joker looking one way, and when we see him look like something completely different think its not him.. Like and example woupd be from suicide squad..we all know in a way that cant be joker because the we know how joker is he woupd never had done something like that to his body. Unless that joker is from a different universe...
                        But at the end of the day for me.. I really like if they take a character and make it as something that not everbody would see that character as. (another example is the tv show Gotham. It is based of the comice but they but a 21's century out put to it but still made it look kind of old..)

                        • AngelKayla 2021
                          AngelKayla 2021  18 minutes back

                          @abbsnn cose apparently when it was showed at one of those sundance festival.. For the one with the people who do movies or something. People stood up for like 7 or 8 mins and claped for the movie...either way im still going to watch this movie

                        • abbsnn cose
                          abbsnn cose  51 minutes back

                          Do I have faith in this movie...not really, It's DC. They're gonna prob do whatever they want & the Joker tag is for cash. Plus, who wants to see weak, unintelligent Joker?...I do

                      • D3X
                        D3X  2 hours back

                        Can you do a firefly funhouse theory it’s a puppet horror series

                        • Some Random Idiot
                          Some Random Idiot  2 hours back

                          We are all clowns 🤡🌎

                          • Ladies Man2187
                            Ladies Man2187  2 hours back

                            This Is BullS**t

                            • Ice King
                              Ice King  2 hours back

                              Matpat:They release this movie just right after suicide squad
                              Me:Itd been 3 years

                              • ROS Flicks
                                ROS Flicks  2 hours back

                                I got an ad for joker while watching this

                                Why YouTube?

                                • Cha20403
                                  Cha20403  2 hours back

                                  I cringe

                                  • MR Quack
                                    MR Quack  2 hours back

                                    Matpat:the last live action joker is the suicide squad one

                                    Me in 2019: laughs in Joaquin Phoenix

                                    • Parker Avery
                                      Parker Avery  2 hours back

                                      I think we know what happened to Paul Allen....

                                      • Jarrod Lapi
                                        Jarrod Lapi  2 hours back

                                        What happened to hiimmarymary?????? I NEED ANSWERS

                                        • Antaine Ó hÓgáin
                                          Antaine Ó hÓgáin  2 hours back

                                          This man does create some minor havoc that works its way into the news, providing the later inspiration for the real Joker to start terrorizing Gotham (he would also be just a boy, roughly the same age as Bruce Wayne).

                                          • CnR Spiller
                                            CnR Spiller  3 hours back

                                            Could you mabye do a Lego Ninjago episode?? Please please please pretty please!!! Mabye try to sort out the time line? It’s very confusing. PRETTY PLEASE MAT PAT!!!

                                            • Michael Patrick
                                              Michael Patrick  3 hours back

                                              I have a theory that the Joker was never real and is merely a fictional character created for comics, tv, and movies.

                                            • KawaiiPanda 666
                                              KawaiiPanda 666  3 hours back

                                              Bro why

                                              • Skyro
                                                Skyro  3 hours back

                                                JOKERS CANNON NAME IS JOHN DOE

                                                • SilentOne861
                                                  SilentOne861  3 hours back

                                                  That early review that you guys said came out "litterally while you were editing" was one of the main reasons you had the idea to study and make the prediction to begin with. Why lie about it?

                                                  • Soulless
                                                    Soulless  3 hours back

                                                    This theory is so lazy...... you could any movie like Harry Potter.

                                                    • Soulless
                                                      Soulless  2 hours back

                                                      @Jarrod Lapi I said its a bad unoriginal theory

                                                    • Jarrod Lapi
                                                      Jarrod Lapi  2 hours back


                                                  • Vvmopz
                                                    Vvmopz  3 hours back

                                                    Do I have faith in this movie...not really, It's DC. They're gonna prob do whatever they want & the Joker tag is for cash. Plus, who wants to see weak, unintelligent Joker?...I do expect some decent acting tho.

                                                    • tanınmaz tanınmaz
                                                      tanınmaz tanınmaz  3 hours back

                                                      6.25 is turkish!

                                                      • Tony Antonellis
                                                        Tony Antonellis  3 hours back

                                                        I knew this joker is meant to be the predecessor of Batman's joker and that is the best way to connect this film to Robert pattison's Batman and I somehow imagine that this year's joker is the father of Harley Quinn who is seen in the days of Robert Pattison's Batman

                                                        • Dan’s Animations
                                                          Dan’s Animations  3 hours back

                                                          5:18 what’s up with the wall?

                                                          • Tyler Hughes
                                                            Tyler Hughes  4 hours back

                                                            It has already been stated that he isn't the Joker we all know and love, but Arthur inspired the real Joker to become him !

                                                            • Stain razor
                                                              Stain razor  4 hours back

                                                              do a one punch man vs. vibranium

                                                              • vagueful
                                                                vagueful  4 hours back

                                                                RUNESCAPE MAGIC HAT! 13:49 thanks for nostalgiac memories

                                                                • asspounderify
                                                                  asspounderify  4 hours back


                                                                  So youre saying all doctors are schizophrenics ...

                                                                  • Tutorial Master
                                                                    Tutorial Master  4 hours back

                                                                    I finnaly found the meme

                                                                    • Escanor
                                                                      Escanor  4 hours back

                                                                      here's a theory

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                                                                      • Mark's Unboxing Zone
                                                                        Mark's Unboxing Zone  5 hours back

                                                                        So basically a modern remake of King of Comedy, just with Joker as the main character.

                                                                        • Flare FrostFire
                                                                          Flare FrostFire  5 hours back

                                                                          Ironically as I was watching this a trailer for Joker started playing

                                                                          • Amora Meyer
                                                                            Amora Meyer  5 hours back

                                                                            This might be far fetched and childish but can you do a film theory on the monster high movie series because it seems like there is a lot of lore behind the movies but also no lore at all, maybe there is hidden lore.

                                                                            • Thomas Moir
                                                                              Thomas Moir  5 hours back

                                                                              My theory is

                                                                              He is the joker but since the movie is In a alternate reality he can be different to what you expect .

                                                                              • Ckris Ramos
                                                                                Ckris Ramos  5 hours back

                                                                                I was watching old videos of yours but I have a question in your cars theory you said they are bugs but during one part master says he took out Luigi’s car battery so doesn’t that mean they aren’t bugs

                                                                                • An Meme
                                                                                  An Meme  5 hours back

                                                                                  He's not real so twittards can stop complaining about him being a white man

                                                                                  • James Grant
                                                                                    James Grant  5 hours back

                                                                                    He isn't the joker. He is the inspiration for who becomes the joker.

                                                                                    • kriss 25anime
                                                                                      kriss 25anime  5 hours back

                                                                                      i want joker to be part of DCEU, i don't care about reasons i just want more DCEU movie

                                                                                      • Bamblue_11 -Va-
                                                                                        Bamblue_11 -Va-  5 hours back

                                                                                        Also it lists “A blank, vacant facial expression. An inability to Smile-“

                                                                                        • Frambhueee
                                                                                          Frambhueee  5 hours back

                                                                                          Since batman begins, every director has to do they're versions of "the real story" of any comic character, like I have to shows a different view of the hero/villian, more human, showing they weaknes, like they are allways victims(villians) and the only difference between them is that the heros are heros because they could go over they're problems and bad situations

                                                                                          • Ben72906 b
                                                                                            Ben72906 b  5 hours back

                                                                                            When u were talking in the beginning I agree so much that’s what I want rn after all the flashy stuff