Joker Director Finally Explains That Last Crucial Scene

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  • Published: 09 October 2019
  • Arthur Fleck's biggest joke just might be the one he pulled on you. Joker director Todd Phillips recently made a few very interesting comments to the Los Angeles Times about the final scene of the movie comments that imply a bizarre truth about the story being presented. In case that's not warning enough, be advised that major spoilers for Joker lie ahead.

    Joaquin Phoenix's Arthur is depicted early and often as having a tenuous grip on reality. The film eventually lets on that it's not always clear which events are fantasy and which are reality not to the audience, and presumably not to Arthur.

    At the end, Arthur is seen with his psychiatrist in Arkham State Hospital after he has apparently killed his mother, incited a riot, shot Murray Franklin on live television, and escaped from police custody with the help of his clown-masked followers. As the shrink attempts to question him, Arthur simply laughs, telling her that she wouldn't get the joke. According to Phillips, it's this particular laugh that might hold a clue about the true nature of the story that just unfolded. He explained,

    "That laugh in that scene is really the only time he laughs genuinely. There are different laughs in the movie. There is the laugh from Arthur's affliction and then there is his fake laugh when he's trying to be 'one of the people,' which is my favorite laugh. But at the end, when he's in the room at Arkham State Hospital, that's his only genuine laugh in the movie."

    Why is that, exactly? Well, perhaps because in the end, the joke is on us, the audience. Phillips has said that one of the main influences on his film was The Killing Joke, the acclaimed 1988 graphic novel in which the Joker says that if he must have a past, he, quote, "[prefers] it to be multiple choice." The director made a direct allusion to this dialogue in suggesting that as many fans have speculated Arthur Fleck might not necessarily be who we think he is. Phillips said,

    "There are lots of ways you could look at this movie. You could look at it and go, 'This is just one of his multiple-choice stories. None of it happened.' I don't want to say what it is. But a lot of people I've shown it to have said, 'Oh, I get it he's just made up a story. The whole movie is the joke. It's this thing this guy in Arkham Asylum concocted. He might not even be the Joker.'"

    Phillips went on to state outright that the man who will become Batman's nemesis may simply be in the background somewhere, watching all of these events play out. He said,

    "Maybe Joaquin's character inspired the Joker. You don't really know. His last line in the movie is, 'You wouldn't get it.' There's a lot going on in there that's interesting."

    Phoenix himself also explained that Joker can be seen not so much as a straightforward narrative, but as a series of suggestions. Keep watching the video to see that the Joker director finally explains that last crucial scene!

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Comments • 3 953

  • Looper
    Looper   1 weeks back

    How much of Joker do you think really happened in the movie? Which parts?

    • Sevren Hoover
      Sevren Hoover  6 hours back

      Pogokoala agree 110%

    • Painted Solace
      Painted Solace  23 hours back

      @Ben Owen was that not the same person?

    • Originality Am
      Originality Am  1 days back

      It's multiple choice .

    • Dean W. Thomas
      Dean W. Thomas  1 days back

      I don’t believe any of it happened except for the final scene.

    • Kenneth Lam
      Kenneth Lam  1 days back

      @Jeff A. except for this exact movie, because its exactly what the main character would do and has historically done

  • Kori Hayes
    Kori Hayes  1 minutes back

    If you want to see what The media has to say about it head over to my Channel 🥴 why so serious media

    • victor evans
      victor evans  19 minutes back

      This is the reason why DC movies never reach its target audience... cos they(DC production) are the only people who thinks their films are interesting... do it right... be straight to the point... we all just wanna be entertained...

      • ☢ ƬƝƬƁOƳ-Ɗα-Ɓαωz ☢

        I love this movie

        • Miss Raline
          Miss Raline  54 minutes back

          Just watched this movie for the second time and i think all of it is real except the part that shown in movie it's not..

          At the very beginning scene Arthur was talking to the social activist that he feel better locked up in Arkham asylum , and there's a glimpse of Arkham white room which he's banging his head. I thought that scene shows Arthur is in mental illness condition and tried to hurt himself so they locked him up..

          Remember when he get to Arkham Hospital again to look up his mother ( Penny Fleck) documents? In that scene he's asking the clerk how to get in here, while the clerk answers people who get in here is hurting other people or hurting themselves.. In my opinion Arthur done every bad thing to get in there..

          At the very last, he locked up for killing 5 people, and he thought of joke. That joke might be his life nothing but comedy..

          Who's with me?

          • Roo Seph
            Roo Seph  54 minutes back

            This is all BS to drum up hype and mystery for the movie/character and it's all cop out answer for the director.

            • Madison K
              Madison K  1 hours back

              You didn't explain the ending at all

              • Lucas Arnquist
                Lucas Arnquist  1 hours back

                This is stupid just let us enjoy the movie

                • IRUNASSAULT
                  IRUNASSAULT  2 hours back

                  I really hate the "it was all a dream" cliche.
                  It totally ruins the impact of the movie when you want to rewatch it, because hey, why should I care about anything that happens when it's all a feverdream?
                  Its interesting to think some things were just Arthur's imagination but the whole thing? That would kill the love I have for the film entirely.

                  • Callie Pait
                    Callie Pait  3 hours back

                    It’s pretty obvious that Arthur Fleck had realized, by the end of the movie, that he was just a character. He starts to sing the song that is then presented as the ending scene song so he is just coming to terms with the fact that his life is a tragic comedy written for an audience. Arthur Fleck is the joker. The joker knows he’s a character. He is breaking the fourth wall and the entire movie was just working up to that fact.

                    • Dakota Stepe
                      Dakota Stepe  4 hours back

                      I think the whole clown riot thing was real and the end is after he has been captured by Batman and figured that he Cause Bruce Wayne’s parents to get killed

                      • Jeremy Menning
                        Jeremy Menning  6 hours back

                        Cesar Romero.
                        Jack Nicholson.
                        Mark Hamill.
                        Cameron Monaghan.
                        Zack Galifinakis.
                        Jared Leto.
                        Heath Ledger.
                        Joaquin Phoenix.

                        They were all The Joker.
                        And none of them were The Joker.

                        • Thomas DL
                          Thomas DL  7 hours back

                          I want him to be the joker!

                          • giada
                            giada  10 hours back

                            The director seems to openly approve the theory "The movie was just Arthur's immagination. Arthur is not the real joker". Too easy! This means, to me, that the theory will soon prove to be wrong XD
                            I have experience with series's writers who approve fans's theories and then write different stories XD
                            I think Todd and Joaquin are really considering a "Joker" sequel, and maybe when/if they'll confirm the sequel they'll tell us the truth abous the last scene.

                            • Ileamar Ferrer
                              Ileamar Ferrer  11 hours back

                              Joaquin Phoenix is the Joker! No one else!

                              • Hugo Brömme
                                Hugo Brömme  11 hours back

                                "Perhaps he told the story to a fellow Arkham State Hospital inmate who then became the real Joker who fights Batman"

                                Not only does that sound like stupid overanalyzing bullshit but also unsatisfying as fuck if it's actually true. It would ruin the movie for me completely.

                                • DonutWarLord
                                  DonutWarLord  11 hours back

                                  All of it happened except the part with his girlfriend.
                                  The end scene was in the future where he more than likely got locked up and he was thinking of batman.

                                  • Muath Nasser
                                    Muath Nasser  15 hours back

                                    He is the Joker's father. (Although I don't like this scenario)
                                    In the movie you can notice how he draws a smile in Bruce's face, and how he do the same action many times throughout the movie. Maybe that is what the original Joker meant when he tell the story of his scars "why so serious son"

                                    • david ortega
                                      david ortega  16 hours back

                                      The movie is actually pretty simple. He is the real Joker. It's just that at the very end scene, he's giving another Bull crap story that he made up to yet, another Doctor trying to understand what made the Joker INTO the Joker. Think of it as the abusive father story that he fed to Harley Quinn in Batman: The Animated series. It's all Bull shit.

                                      • Sebastian B
                                        Sebastian B  16 hours back

                                        The one thing that makes me wonder is that Arthur is one generation ahead of Bruce. He would have to be over 60 when meeting Batman.

                                        • Ryan King
                                          Ryan King  17 hours back

                                          So what, he explained it by saying its a mystery?... right...

                                          • yee yee
                                            yee yee  20 hours back

                                            i’m gonna have to watch this movie like 10 times to completely understand what and who arthur fleck truly is. i’ve already seen it twice and after watching this video, it’s making me ponder if arthur is the real joker??? then why the hell would the whole movie be titled joker, or him being brought up and introduced as that. saying he’s “not the real joker” is a lame ass way to describe this cinematic fucking masterpiece.

                                            • JiNzX115
                                              JiNzX115  20 hours back

                                              When asked about the potential of merging two worlds together, Joker and Batman, Todd immediately says NOPE, NEVER. I mean like....Nolan boss has set the bar so high up, Todd clearly doesn't wanna end up like Suicide Squad lmao.....You can see his face, he's scared shitless and runs off.

                                              • JiNzX115
                                                JiNzX115  20 hours back

                                                At the end, he's really laughing at the irony of his whole life being a joke. No origin, no identity, bullied on the street, subway, no relationship, has a laughing condition, tried to work his way up as a comedian only to find himself ridiculed by a person he idolized as a father figure. How can you not see that? It was so obvious.

                                                • Jacob Martinez
                                                  Jacob Martinez  22 hours back

                                                  Well this was a waste time

                                                  • Jay Smith
                                                    Jay Smith  22 hours back

                                                    Nice to see that Looper finally found a movie to make videos about other than Avengers Endgame.

                                                    • Dave Deacon
                                                      Dave Deacon  24 hours back

                                                      I actually just commented to my son that I believe the entire story was in his head. That he may not even be The Joker as even the title is vague "Joker". I think this movie is about mental illness and how we (society) needs to try and make some sense of it where none can be made. We need to put him in some sort of category. Notice how everyone tries to make this movie fit what they want to see and quickly criticize anyone who disagrees. I actually hope the director never explains it as like great art, it is in the eye of the beholder.

                                                      • turbo shaft
                                                        turbo shaft  1 days back

                                                        We don't actually see the joker get captured after the Murray Franklin show so I can only presume that it's the same after he stands on the car so I believe the whole arthur turns into the joker thing is real and he gets captured shortly after he stands on the car but also you cant compare ledger and Phoenix because ledger plays the enemy of batman and Phoenix takes on a different role

                                                        • JRayC2002
                                                          JRayC2002  1 days back

                                                          Knowing the whole film never happened and that he may not be the real joker ruined the entire film for me, this would of been the best film of the year but the whole dream thing is terrible writing.

                                                          • rah
                                                            rah  1 days back

                                                            Okay so he just randomly makes up how jokers life is, this a joke.

                                                            • Stephen Sharma
                                                              Stephen Sharma  1 days back

                                                              Whose the narrator of this video is she as hot as she sounds?

                                                              • Connor McAnerney
                                                                Connor McAnerney  1 days back

                                                                I read a theory that I personally believe is what the ending means


                                                                The final scene in Arkham is set in the future, after Bruce became the Batman and captured Joker, that's why he doesn't have his dyed hair anymore. He was thinking back on the night of the riot when the Waynes were killed and puts two and two together that Bruce became the Batman. Thats why the psychiatrist wouldn't get what he's laughing at. He just got the ultimate punchline: he was the one to create the Batman.

                                                                • kristin
                                                                  kristin  1 days back

                                                                  this isn’t a movie about the comic book characters at all. This is a commentary on our social system and our treatment of mentally ill and low income people. It’s genius to use the joker theme as a format to bring these messages to the forefront to be discussed. That is what we are meant to discuss, not if Batman is coming or if his experiences were real or imagined.

                                                                  • Essmat Arafa
                                                                    Essmat Arafa  1 days back

                                                                    Sure Nolan is better than you !

                                                                    • savin padencherry
                                                                      savin padencherry  1 days back

                                                                      If this isn't the real joker then I'm pretty sure a lot of viewers would as disappointed in the movie as they were impressed by it.. I hope it doesn't turn out that way... Then the movie would turn out to have a lot of plotholes

                                                                      • ja bo
                                                                        ja bo  19 hours back

                                                                        He's "a Joker" just not the one Batman faces in this timeline. Which sorta makes sense because after all Joker is a master schemer and renowned gangster dangerous enough to rival Batman.

                                                                    • Mosta Ali
                                                                      Mosta Ali  1 days back

                                                                      no idea why is it necessary to link to a "Joker character" its all fiction anyway, but I don't like the idea that a story is only imagination in someone head we already know a movie story is mind born why make it double fake

                                                                      • Wulfarath
                                                                        Wulfarath  1 days back

                                                                        I wouldn't take that as a certainty. Directors have always lied about what their next film would hold. So people wouldn't have certain expectations. It may be wishful thinking in the end. But that's the story I'm sticking with.

                                                                        • big sarge
                                                                          big sarge  2 days back

                                                                          So basically this video didn’t explain shit. Thanks

                                                                          • gangrail
                                                                            gangrail  2 days back

                                                                            Him saying no batman might be a mis direction, i would love the next film for batman to face hin and they present the trailer as a joker movie and not show batman in it

                                                                            • PMC05
                                                                              PMC05  2 days back

                                                                              3 words: Bales American Psycho

                                                                              • Ge In
                                                                                Ge In  2 days back

                                                                                Uh, it's fiction. Tommorow he can be written as a turnip who loves hello kitty parades. You're all morons.

                                                                                • Elias Ortiz
                                                                                  Elias Ortiz  2 days back

                                                                                  Nope, made to much money. They made it ambiguous at the end for story telling first off, and safe keeping just in case it made more money than they thought since it's R Rated .so sequel is most likely inevitable. Plus it's a fucking amazing movie I've seen in years no joke. WB can't turn down all this $$ lol they are doubling that budget next movie😂

                                                                                  • Elias Ortiz
                                                                                    Elias Ortiz  2 days back

                                                                                    After he killed murrAy! was a genuine laugh I thought

                                                                                    • DH_Artist
                                                                                      DH_Artist  2 days back

                                                                                      what I found funny, this may be just my sick mind, is that before walking in the hallway, he starts singing some of the lyrics to “That’s Life”, particularly “some people get their kicks, stomping on a dream” and we see his bloody footprints. So clearly he was stomping on her, probably stomping her brains out. Kinda a play on it, but again that’s probably just my twisted mind. I’d just like to think maybe that’s what the joke he was thinking about was. I sure as hell found it funny after watching it the second time 😂

                                                                                      • Amazing Facts Kannada
                                                                                        Amazing Facts Kannada  2 days back

                                                                                        I like phoenix laughing

                                                                                        • jonathan lopez
                                                                                          jonathan lopez  2 days back

                                                                                          Arthur fletcher is joker but not the joker that villan is the one that kills tomas wane and drops in a quimical bath after ala nicolson leto but not ledger.

                                                                                          • Public Safety.
                                                                                            Public Safety.  2 days back

                                                                                            The joker was in handcuffs during the last scene? If it was just all his imagination why was he in cuffs? He have had to have done something bad in order to be cuffed up like that right?

                                                                                            • Gaunter O' Dimm
                                                                                              Gaunter O' Dimm  2 days back

                                                                                              I'm not a big fan of Arthur not being the actual Joker, it kind of takes away from the movie.