Boeing's China Problem

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  • Published: 10 September 2019
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    References:
    [1] data.worldbank.org/indicator/IS.AIR.PSGR?locations=CN
    [2] iata.org/pressroom/pr/Documents/TopTenPaxMarkets_graph.pdf
    [3] scmp.com/news/world/russia-central-asia/article/3024610/you-can-buy-russias-putin-pitches-su-57-stealth-jets
    [4] skift.com/2019/01/08/boeing-edges-airbus-to-stay-worlds-biggest-commercial-aircraft-manufacturer/
    [5] s2.q4cdn.com/661678649/files/doc_financials/annual/2019/Boeing-2018AR-Final.pdf
    [6] cnbc.com/2019/02/04/boeing-stock-all-time-high-on-china-demand-production-acceleration.html
    [7] graphics.reuters.com/ETHIOPIA-AIRPLANE/010091341G7/index.html
    [8] routesonline.com/news/29/breaking-news/283437/what-routes-does-the-boeing-737-max-8-fly/
    [9] airbus.com/newsroom/news/en/2018/09/airbus--china-assembly-facility-marks-10-years-of-quality-manufa.html
    [10] wsj.com/articles/boeing-and-its-737-max-jets-have-a-china-problem-11554904340
    [11] nytimes.com/2019/03/13/business/china-boeing.html
    [12] apnews.com/88d5235d2107400680d8b0870d30d218
    [13] marketplace.org/2019/02/11/ceo-americas-biggest-exporter-manufacturing-america-doing-business/
    [14] bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-25/airbus-is-said-to-seal-long-awaited-aircraft-order-from-china
    [15] mhi.com/news/story/190625.html
    [16] ukranews.com/en/news/612803-antonov-planning-to-resume-production-of-an-148-an-158-and-an-178-planes-in-2019
    [17] telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/china-comac-919-new-plane-ryanair/

Comments • 2 685

  • bowen voowy
    bowen voowy  1 minutes back

    B̶o̶e̶i̶n̶g̶'̶s̶ ̶C̶h̶i̶n̶ ̶ ̶ ̶ Wendover's Airplane Problem

    • Matteo Mariano
      Matteo Mariano  28 minutes back

      Amazing video as always. You say the C919 has the same engines as the neo and MAX (CFM Leap1A/ PW1000G on some neos) but you say the C919 will operate GE engines. Do you know which ones?

      • kapachangos
        kapachangos  29 minutes back

        You forgot Embraer..

        • Wolfgang Gartner
          Wolfgang Gartner  47 minutes back

          Honestly fuck Boeing.

          Surrender your safety testing to Europe,

          Then yes Boeing.

          When you’re serving a Global market you shouldn’t be the only one allowed to investigate yourself regarding safety implications.

          • bowen voowy
            bowen voowy  30 less than a minute back

            Haha. Boeing Sucks. There politically correct hiring practice has bit them in the ass. Serves them right for not hiring the most qualified(mostly white) engineers. The MAX is

        • ulfpe
          ulfpe  1 hours back

          China could swap Huawei against Boeing "safety concerns"

          • Jiefu Zhang
            Jiefu Zhang  2 hours back

            Boeing, can you just make a good plane? You will be out of the Chinese market, not because of China, it is because Boeing cannot make a good plane.

            • Bob Deckx
              Bob Deckx  2 hours back

              Boeing China Probrem

              • Gary Davis
                Gary Davis  3 hours back

                Boeing Boeing, Gone just a matter of time

                • Mark Snyder
                  Mark Snyder  3 hours back

                  So wrong. The Max will get recertified - and the Chinese will take delivery. The wait for A320’s is too long.; all airlines will get some compensation from Boeing. The Trade War is hammering the already poor economy much, much more than the US - please start getting your business news from a source that isn’t far Left and anti-Trump. And the 3rd issue - COMAC - is as much Airbus’ as Boeing. Yes, the Chinese will be buying their own planes. Some poorer Asian countries might to - but not that many.

                  Usually like your videos but this is very poor, with no basis in reality.

                  • THEEND123321
                    THEEND123321  4 hours back

                    so planes made in China suck and are bad! nothing new here folks......

                    • Mar Blox
                      Mar Blox  5 hours back

                      I hope COMAC succeeds. I love all the high quality low priced things I buy from Walmart.
                      For all you high priced labor workers - FU.!!!

                      • Mike B
                        Mike B  6 hours back

                        Hong Kong as a Communists China problem.

                        • Mark Fischer
                          Mark Fischer  6 hours back

                          Boeing will fix the problem that caused the two crashes. There's no doubt of that. The trade war with China would have caused China to cancel its future purchases anyway. The US can retaliate by not certifying the Chinese plane and not granting it landing rights in the US or its territories. It can also pressure its local allies like South Korea, Vietnam, Australia, and Japan to do the same.I don't think it will take too much persuasion. The EU will continue to rely on Airbus as its number one supplier. I doubt China will make many inroads in that market. Russia is also developing its own new passenger plane and so is not likely to allow China to compete effectively there either. The FAA has already given China a large number of defects in design and construction to fix. Perhaps the list will grow longer indefinitely. Boeing will rely to a large degree on the US domestic market and on its military products for its customers. Many outside the US not directly involved with the US China trade war will continue to purchase Boeing civilian aircraft for their fleets.

                          • Carlo B
                            Carlo B  7 hours back

                            the FAA allowed Boeing to self regulate on some things Wow what a monumental F...up! how typical of an America Inc. Corporation eyeing the potential dollars first before completing the job with aplomb .

                            • DavidisDawei
                              DavidisDawei  7 hours back

                              07:25
                              http://daviddawei.com/chinese-made-passenger-jet-prepares-for-maiden-flight/

                              • ottavva
                                ottavva  7 hours back

                                I hate AIRBUS and it just can't be helped

                                • YG LEO
                                  YG LEO  7 hours back

                                  warning Taiwan is part of china

                                  • Eris Young
                                    Eris Young  7 hours back

                                    So this video is actually about boeing's 737 Max problem

                                    • Jim Dighton
                                      Jim Dighton  7 hours back

                                      The future is chinese, Chinese companies will make even the best American companies obsolete

                                      • Keyser Soze
                                        Keyser Soze  8 hours back

                                        Im sure Boeings technology was stolen long ago...cmon if they steal fighter tech, why not commercial planes?

                                        • Timbuck Too
                                          Timbuck Too  8 hours back

                                          Haha. Boeing Sucks. There politically correct hiring practice has bit them in the ass. Serves them right for not hiring the most qualified(mostly white) engineers.
                                          The MAX is Dead. So is Boeing

                                          • josh otis
                                            josh otis  8 hours back

                                            They can buy all our Max 8 for what we payed for them

                                            • josh otis
                                              josh otis  8 hours back

                                              china is going too take out all seats but 1st class and make everyone stand so they can fly 2 times as many people per a plane.

                                              • ASGAR Q
                                                ASGAR Q  9 hours back

                                                Boycott China Products

                                                • Amidat
                                                  Amidat  9 hours back

                                                  So you are saying Comac should have rushed through the ARJ21??? It's a commercial plane - not a bicycle! If they rushed it would end up crashing like the Boeing 737. Comac's record is safe... That's what they are concerned about.

                                                  • elysian fields
                                                    elysian fields  9 hours back

                                                    "Civil aviation" in China? BS! They are all military transports supporting the conscienceless CCP. Boeing is a mindless, commercial whore!

                                                    • Phil Zappa
                                                      Phil Zappa  9 hours back

                                                      Build your own.plane Han...see how hard it is....Remember...Usa did not steal your plans or designs...because...U GOT NONE

                                                      • Jiefu Zhang
                                                        Jiefu Zhang  2 hours back

                                                        That is exactly what they are doing. You will not see an Boeing 737 max again in China. They will have their own plane c919, c929 ec.

                                                    • Grishanya
                                                      Grishanya  9 hours back

                                                      You forgot to mention that C919 is build together with Russian company Irkut which is simultaneously developing MS-21 aircraft. Yes, GE engines are currently installed on C919 but its gonna be changed for PD-14 as soon as Russian institutions will finish the development of that. So it's even more dangerous since soon we will have MS-21 and C919 taking on Boeing 737 and Airbus A320neo together :)
                                                      Also there's a potential competition if Russia finally reallizes what to do with Il-96-400M because it needs new engines which Russia doesnt have but its a very good plane that can carry more than 450 passengers

                                                      • A. Al Khayyat
                                                        A. Al Khayyat  10 hours back

                                                        Polymatter?

                                                        • Ian Montgomery
                                                          Ian Montgomery  11 hours back

                                                          What about the C929 which is due in a couple of years.

                                                          • A Mohamed Nazel
                                                            A Mohamed Nazel  11 hours back

                                                            nobody trust 737max anymore or Boeing for that matter..they don't keep their word and cut corners on safety and make huge profits by compromising safety

                                                            • James McKay
                                                              James McKay  12 hours back

                                                              I like tour xhannel. A constructive critisism is to SLOW Sown your speech. It almost hurts,

                                                              • Billy
                                                                Billy  12 hours back

                                                                "China is building their own air plane"... yeah no shit, the cheating scum steal everyone's IP to build their "own".

                                                                • Supreme Overlord
                                                                  Supreme Overlord  13 hours back

                                                                  FAA is a joke!

                                                                  • ThatDutchguy
                                                                    ThatDutchguy  14 hours back

                                                                    Boeing has a safety and quality problem,...let's start with that.

                                                                    Not to mention that, the US government and the FAA have both grandfathered in either their direct backing and in the case of the FAA their carte blanc approval to Boeing.

                                                                    And that's wrong on soooooo many levels.

                                                                    • Glen 897
                                                                      Glen 897  14 hours back

                                                                      Another aspect of Chinese air travel not mentioned is air space overcrowding around the major cities. I do wonder if one day Comac will buy the rights and tooling for the Airbus A380. It has been a commercial flop for Airbus, but is actually a good plane in search of a purpose. Reducing air space congestion around the biggest Chinese cities may be that purpose.

                                                                      • cxplayxc
                                                                        cxplayxc  14 hours back

                                                                        who wants to fly a China plane ? i would never

                                                                        • Alan Tan
                                                                          Alan Tan  15 hours back

                                                                          So, 737 Max is made for(emphasized) china, designed from the USA.

                                                                          • Mireille Davidson
                                                                            Mireille Davidson  15 hours back

                                                                            This is somewhat misleading. The world does not tank its cues from the fAT, in fact the FAT were the last authority worldwide to ground the plane. The Ethopian, Canandia and UK authorities were one of the first to respond, with China and Europe and the rest of the world, excluding USA, swiftly following.
                                                                            The history of how this plane came to market I horrific and I never expected it from Boeing, having always held them in such high regard. But ever since their merger with McDoanld Douglas, its been all about the profit. This situation is just BS however, if you have the finance there is definitely a gap, or rather a gaping hole, for a new manufacturer.
                                                                            But please remember, the rest of the world's aviation don't wait on the drippings of the FAA , they are quite capable of making their own decisions, as is evident by the worldwide grounding of a beautiful but flawed plane.

                                                                          • tony he
                                                                            tony he  16 hours back

                                                                            Just wanna remind ya that Taiwan is a province of China,which means it is a part of China,so ur map was wrong.

                                                                            • Mike G
                                                                              Mike G  16 hours back

                                                                              Yes, COMAC already stole US technology.
                                                                              I worked at GE Aviation.
                                                                              COMAC contracted with GE to design, test and manufacture avionics for them.
                                                                              COMAC pulled out of the contract when GE developed most of the design and tech.
                                                                              COMAC took the IP and ran, made their own planes.
                                                                              So GE payed millions to develop the tech, only to have China renege on the contract.
                                                                              China- 1, GE- 0.

                                                                              • Reza Adel
                                                                                Reza Adel  16 hours back

                                                                                This is just the beginning.

                                                                                • Mark Stuckey
                                                                                  Mark Stuckey  16 hours back

                                                                                  In China most big companies are government owned, in the USA most government is big company owned.

                                                                                  • R Greenup
                                                                                    R Greenup  17 hours back

                                                                                    Boeing and the FAA have been incredibly stupid concerning the Max, the only reason I can think of why this happened is because both considered themselves above ordinary considerations and a law unto themselves. They have opened the door for China and helped Airbus at the same time, unbelievable.

                                                                                    • Hector Lalalala
                                                                                      Hector Lalalala  17 hours back

                                                                                      I wish china all the best. But i gotta say that i hate Chinese people. That was a bipolar comment 😭😂🙄

                                                                                      • Kamal Yadav
                                                                                        Kamal Yadav  18 hours back

                                                                                        Please make a video on Air Asia and Malaysian airlines safety standards.
                                                                                        I think they are not allowed to fly in Europe airspace

                                                                                        • Sydney dorono
                                                                                          Sydney dorono  18 hours back

                                                                                          The map is wrong, ewww

                                                                                          • Andrew C
                                                                                            Andrew C  18 hours back

                                                                                            It's going to start off unreliable and cheap. Then after a few years it will be more reliable, possibly even more reliable than the competition, and cheaper still. You see the Chinese are moving on into robotic manufacturing. That will make it cheap, but like everything else they manufacture, it has taken a few years to get the products right, as it does for anyone developing a product, but the difference is the Chinese improve faster. Everything happens faster in China. They can build a whole city faster than it takes to build a nuclear reactor back in Blighty. lol